Saturday, February 28, 2009
CMCstudent, 2/28
Dr. Rog talked about a trip he took to Yellowstone where he watched a family wait impatiently for the geyser to go off, and when it did not go off in time they angrily hurried off. This proves to us, as Eco said in the reading, “technology gives us more reality that nature can” (203). This is because technology will do the same thing every time on the hour compared to a natural occurrence that cannot insure the same display each time. This uninsurrance and rarity of a natural occurrence is what makes it so special from technology which can produce pretty much anything on the spot. It is the wait for the geyser, knowing that no one has control over it that makes it so spectacular. Technology can reproduce it but then it becomes less spectacular, or so one would think. Today, people do not seem to care whether things happen naturally or by technology as long as they happen when they are expected to.
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Asyouwish Cities in cities/epcot
Monday, February 23, 2009
Trapnest, Dorfman
“Children’s games have their own rules and laws, they move supposedly in an autonomous and asocial sphere like Disney characters…” - Dorfman
This wealth Disney has, on all levels, I feel is also representative of how much influence Disney has over the development of children. I found it interesting how Dorfman and Mattelart points out that these child fantasies that Disney produce are created by adults. Also how this fantasy is used to promote what “adults want.” As Dorfman said:
“The authoritarian relationship between the real life parent and child is repeated and reinforced within the fantasy world itself…” – Dorfman
I think of how many parent/child relationships there are in the Disney movies. Even thinking back to the original inspiration for Disney the original Grimm fairy tales were designed to educate adults as well as children of how they should act and how their relationship should be. While it was more severe things like “don’t beat your children” and “don’t run away,” many of the relationship influences remain in-tact today. Looking at Cinderella, true it was a step mother, but it shows that you should not treat your children poorly. Otherwise it is possible that they can return and see their revenge and justice upon you for your actions. Or children who run away from their parents or don’t follow their advice and then end up getting into trouble or kidnapped. I think everyone knows of that touching moment in the end of the Disney movies where the kid hugs the parent and says “Mom/Dad, I’m sorry, I’ll listen from now on.”
Murphy, Eco
Eco writes about another author's view of Disney World as a "degenerate utopia". Maybe people remember Disney World because it is the perfect world, or at the least the closest we'll ever get in this lifetime, to what we all wish we could have everyday, and it FEELS REAL.
WoolyBully7, Eco
While I agree with everything Eco is referencing as far as the reconstructions represented in Disneyland, is the whole establishment as imaginative as we think it is? Some of the Disney characters such as Snow White or Peter Pan may be products of the imagination but almost everything else is “fake”. The imagination in the truest sense of the word is gone. The first four paragraphs outline over a dozen of these fake cities and how they represent past themes and events. The creativity ends after the characters and stories behind the characters. I think these representations of past eras are the exact same thing as the Johnny Rockets example from the other day. Disneyland and World are portraying the past with pirates and wild west gunfights, and Johnny Rockets with the faultless 1950s. At least in Johnny Rockets’ case, there are still people alive now who were alive in the 50s and this is not true for the pirate ships and wild west gunfights with Native Americans.
“The pleasure of imitation, as the ancients knew, is one of the most innate in the human spirit; but here we not only enjoy a perfect imitation, we also enjoy the conviction that imitation has reached its apex and afterwards reality will always be inferior to it.” -Eco
ashlayla, Dorfman
This is the very first line of Dorfman's & Mattelart's essay and I agree with it. Walt Disney was more than a business man, he was an entrepreneur bringing entertainment to millions of people around the world. The residents of Orlando, Anaheim, Paris, Tokyo, and Hong Kong are surrounded by the fantastical characters of Disney. If people don't live in a city that has a Disneyland/world, they go to the one that is closest to them or the one that they really want to visit. Some people try to even go to every single park so that they can experience it in a different way.
Dorfman and Mattelart continued to say that "Disney...transcends differences between peoples and nations, and particularities of custom and language. Disney is the great supranational bridge across which all human beings may communicate with each other." (123) Disney is like a universal language that we learn at a young age. Walt Disney was a successful entrepreneur interested in giving the world a fantastical place that allowed us to escape from our reality. We can communicate with people from a different country because Disney is a household name. As consumers, we constantly buy Disney things because they make us feel like a kid again. All the buildings on Main Street USA are shops disguised as old time buildings. When consumers walk down Main Street USA, past all the buildings, they don't know what is offered inside because there are no signs. There are no signs detailing what Disney "treasures" can be found inside. What they are greeted with are clothes that have Mickey and other characters all over them, lollipops that have Mickey's face smack-dab in the middle of it, and the iconic "Mickey Ears" that everyone buys and wears. Without the signs on the outside of the buildings, Disney consumers are coaxed inside and start buying almost anything and everything. This is what made Disney more than a business man. Getting people to buy his products and take them to their homes to show their neighbors spread the word that Disney is the hottest thing on the market.
Umberto Eco, Petite Etoile
post-it note, 2/19/09
Take wikipedia. As a website, there are editors and professionals that ensure that the site is accurate. But when anyone can post anything on the site, there must be a period of time when the information is inaccurate. Even though the information will be corrected, there is inaccurate information even on regulated sites were democratized information is available. Stating an opinion is important, although, as we have discussed, blogging on the internet means to some that their opinion is actually an educated critique on whatever the topic being blogged about is.
The ironic thing about this account is that the internet is the result of a cultural phenomenon of which hypersimulated sensitivity can be attributed. The internet offers a realm where pictures of celebrities and web cams into homes offer broken bits of information up for interpretation. One thing is posted, like a report on CNN.com and the article can be commented on. Usually the comments are from the truly satisfied reader offering snaps for the author or those who disagree with the story, how it was reported or how it was framed or on the very nature of the topic of the report. All of that information that must be trudged though is important in that non-reporters are now able to post their own ideas. But posting an idea does not make it true or fact.
I think that many people believe everything on the internet because in the infancy of the internet, only qualified journalists and wealthy, therefore educated, individuals had access to it. But now, it is easy to see that there is a stigma about the internet. The duality that exists are those who believe in it and those who question it. It is plain to see that the internet does not have all of the answers when those answers are set against each other.
Murphy, 2/23
Continuing our discussion on Habermas Thursday was most interesting to me when we talked about how our actions are based off of conventions. These conventions tell us what is real/authentic. Dr.Rog's example of how racing cannot be a part of educational culture, and keeping them separate is a way of thriving in both environments really made sense to me. Growing up in Indianapolis I lived around the Indy 500, and coming to school in Winter Park the first thing a lot of people ask me when I tell them where I'm from is "You don't like NASCAR do you?"
I think other situations are good example of conventions creating worlds that need to be separated, such as what music we listen to, what clothes we wear, and what types of food we enjoy eating. The idea brought up in class that "we have to take classes/ have an education to tell us what we like", rings true in everyday life. The other week I attended an etiquette dinner. I had to sit and listen to someone tell me how to eat a certain way to be proper and succeed in formal situations. The information was useful, but it is ironic that we have to be "taught" to eat a certain way. These cultural rules and regulations determine the "elite". Something I wrote down in my notes from Thursdays class in regards to elitism was-- Elitism is teaching us to consume these things that we do not necessarily care for.
I think people buy houses, buy cars, listen to certain music, watch certain movies, eat certain foods, and act a certain way all because we feel societies pressure to fit into certain categories.
Another part of Thursday's discussion that I really thought about later was the class exercise we did with the quote, "Does reality actually outstrip fiction?"
I wrote: After reading Baudrillard and Zizek, reality does not seem to outstrip fiction because fiction begins to define reality. Media is the biggest player in this scheme of manipulating images of what is real, into new images that we consume, accept, and for the most part never challenge.
I was specifically referring to the parts of their writings that talked about 9/11. The media plays into the terrorists favor by recreating over and over and over again the same image of destruction that causes the mass hysteria.
Umberto Eco, brookes77
These falsified cities, parks, are perfect worlds. They allow us to experience past events, wars, pirates, etc . yet when the ride is over we see sunshine, and we do not have to live in that world anymore, and we have the ability to forget and move on. This is not reality.
Another example, is on the last page, of how we lose complete power over ourselves when entering these parks and act like robots is that: "Tomorrow, with its violence, has made the colors fade from the stories of Yesterday. In this respect Disneyland, is much shrewder it must be visited without anything to remind us of the future surrounding it. Marin has observed that, to enter it, the essential condition is to abandon your car in an endless parking lot and reach the boundary of the dream city by special little trains." Our cars are what give us the ability to proceed with the future, to have our individual lives and agendas, yet without them we are confined to the parks agenda, and our individual schedule is no longer important to anyone. Although the park allows us to see that these are just representations of the real, it makes us want to live in a world like this, with fear but only till we are done fearing, with perfect houses, events that have a set beginning and end. These parks are enjoyable, yet they turn us into robots that have a skewed vision of what is real life and what is not.
Dot - Eco
Petite Etoile - 2-33-09 - Response to jlo360
Sunday, February 22, 2009
jl0630 - 2/17/09
Scorpio, 2/19
For example, I once saw this dateline episode where a story about this topic was being broadcasted. The incident revolved around a prank call to several fast food restaurant managers. The prank caller identified themselves as the police and said that the employee working had drugs on them. The caller then gave the manager step by step instructions on how to “strip search” the employees. Most of these searches were caught on tape. The ending result: the managers were arrested and charged with sexual harassment. I find this example a case of Baudrillard at work because the managers followed fake directions in a real attempt to search for drugs.
I come back to my answer above concerning the level that reality does indeed outstrip fiction. The possibility of an employee carrying drugs to work was more real than the chance of being prank called. Likewise, if the media shows us a fake image, we are hardly even apt to question the source, information, or events surrounding this. Therefore, the desert of the real is indeed alive and well in the media.
coolbeans, 2/22
Asyouwish 2/22
I really like what ashlayla had to say about this question. She stated that, “fiction is more desirable than reality because we can’t lose ourselves in reality” but that, “we can lose ourselves in the fictional worlds”. I personally had not really looked at it from that point of view. Like Ashlayla I was originally a believer in reality outstripping fiction because reality is personal experience. In reality the pain that is affecting us is real. If someone we love dies, they are not coming back to life, they are truly gone. In a movie however if the character dies, they are only dead in the script but not in actuality. I guess it really depends how one looks at the word outstrip. In this question, outstrip obviously means to achieve more and thus in my opinion one cannot chose which achieves more. As I stated before, the pain reality causes affects us more because it is actually occurring, not just being shown to us. We truly experience things in reality and yet through fiction we are able to experience things through the voices and creativity of others that we ourselves might not have the chance to see or view in reality. Fiction allows us to experience and see things that are impossibly to view in our world. Through animation and manipulation of characters and scenes in movies, directors are able to create a world more interesting than the one we truly live in. I was watching Alvin and the Chipmunks the other day and after watching the film my friends and I had a silly conversation about how cool it would be if animals could really talk. We wondered what they would say. Take even Harry Potter, personally I have always wished there was such a thing as magic, to be able to make things happen with a flick of one’s wand. Fiction gives us another realm to imagine. Most of my favorite books are works of fiction and I suppose it is for this reason that Ashlayla was discussing about it being an escape from our world. The ability to read a story about a magically kingdom far away relieves our stress and transports our minds to a far away land. Fictional movies and books portray talking animals, magically objects and people, extraordinary inventions and situations; which would be highly unlikely to occur in reality. In this aspect fiction does achieve more and yet as I argued before reality has the luxury of experience of things actually happening to you and thus includes your mistakes, your triumphs, your love. You as a person are attached and connected more to reality than fiction but in the fictional world there are more possibilities. I realize I have not chosen a side in my argument and that is because in my opinion one cannot, both are very different in the way they achieve, one is personal achievement and experience and the other is through a realm of imagination and wishing.
Marie89, 2/17
This quote is an interesting one to analyze as reality should outstrip fiction. However, because of the large role that the mass media plays in our society, I believe that fiction actually outstrips reality. If I am reading this quote as it is intended, I would say that fiction has a bigger impact in our society as the media has distorted our view of reality. It is difficult for people to decipher what is true and what is fake when all that claims to be reality in the media has to be looked at skeptically. For example, reality shows are only real to an extent, magazines are filled with “real” people who have been transformed with technology, and even the food that we eat claiming to be real isn’t necessarily 100% real.
Within our society, we have begun to accept this state of the media. With this accustoming mind-frame, we no longer challenge the statements and constructs imposed by the media. It is now extremely difficult to define reality in our culture because of how concepts and ideas are portrayed. We no longer know real from fiction and we no longer have faith in all that claims to be real. It is sad that this has happened to our society. We no longer question the media or its motives which is exactly what is intended by the media. Because of this, the ideologies of the hegemonic media will go unnoticed and we will continue to perpetuate the cycle of the media and its intentions will continue to be subtle yet impactful.
I believe that this quote also relates to the statements of Lyotard in that in order to escape from this system we have created for ourselves with our submission to the media, we must wage a war on totality. We can no longer be deceived by these images claiming to be real, nor those things created by realism. Authority must be questioned, the media must be questioned, and ideology must be challenged in order for reality to again outstrip fiction.
thestig, 2/22
In class, we debated whether or not reality outstrips fiction. I think that yes, reality does outstrip function. This is why:
Reality is something that is not able to be fully absorbed on television, which is what I would argue is non-fiction, not reality. Reality is an occurrence that one experiences with an emotional state that can only be felt when present. Utilizing and making sense of your five senses is reality. There is a difference between being in New York during the week of 9/11, and reading about it in the Times or watching a news segment/documentary. I can tell you first hand what the chaos was like. I could feel it in the tone of peoples’ voice; I could smell the disaster from my apartment, five or so miles from ground zero; I could see the smoke. What is on TV is not necessarily fiction, but it isn’t reality. It is coded reality; it is fiction reality. The images depict what happens, nothing more. Furthermore, who knows if what you’re seeing on TV is actually “real?” You can’t get the full experience from the TV: if you haven’t been to New Orleans, then you don’t know what it’s like to be there, I promise. You don’t know the stench, the scope of the disaster, or the morale of the native people. Only an extremely sophisticated piece of film can come close to depicting reality. We are also desensitized by images and video clips that are on loop 24/7 on the web and major networks. We saw images of the planes crashing into the world trade center over and over on that day, but each of these images simply depicted a reality. Fiction is what we want: it is the desired outcome, it is the “let’s cut to the chase” of the story. So does reality outstrip fiction? You bet. Reality is a being, fiction is a notion, non-fiction is a depiction.
Rubber Soul, 2/22
ashlayla, 2/17
“Does reality actually outstrip fiction?” (228)
In class, someone said that they believed fiction actually outstrips reality because fiction is more desirable. This statement made me reevaluate my original opinion on this quote and I have to say that I have changed stances and now believe that fiction really is outstripping reality. We desire fiction because we can lose ourselves in the fictional worlds of Beauty and the Beast or 101 Dalmatians. Fiction is more desirable than reality because we can’t lose ourselves in reality. We will always be a part of reality and we will always be a part of fiction. Fiction, however, is our escape from reality which makes it desirable and we can come and go from our fictional worlds as we please.
Juice 15, 2/19
Other then major corporations and government controlling or influencing media I sometimes feel that stories are put on or played up just to increase the ratings. Stories that are newsworthy today seem to be only negative ones that involve some kind of killing or downturn for the world. I don’t necessarily like to watch the news anymore because it is almost depressing to hear about all the things that are wrong with this world. This competition between news organizations to get the higher ratings or more readerships is another flaw that seems to be affecting the news we are receiving.
All this seems to tie back into what is considered real, or what we perceive to be real. CNN is normally thought to be the most trustworthy news station but has been caught up on a few different occasions. What it comes down to is what is listed under the objectives of this class, never to watch media non-critically again.
RIco72, 2/22
Zizek is right on with his statement. Disaster movies are usually have a high budget for filming and special effects and bring in a good amount of money at the box office. According to boxofficemojo.com, the film Independence day cost $75 million to make. It made just over $306 million at the box office. Another great example is the film The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight cost $185 million to make and it has made over $1 billion worldwide just from ticket sales. Also, the villain in the film, The Joker, has been the center of attention since before the film was released. Heath Ledger did such a great job that he has been nominated for an Academy Award. People thought he played an excellent, clever, and interesting villain.
So what does this say about the question of reality outstripping fiction? First, I consider outstripping as outdoing or over passing. I would say that reality does in fact outstrip fiction. As much as people love seeing fiction and feeling like they are a part of it, reality will always feel stronger and more powerful to us. The idea of these catastrophe movies is the perfect example. We love to see destruction and mayhem on the big screen, and after we will talk about it for a while, maybe recommend it to a friend, and then move onto the next movie we see. However, incidents like 9/11 will always be remembered by those who lived through it and were part of it. I think people are so drawn to movies because we know it's fake. Our subconscious knows its fake. That is why we enjoy it so much. We also like to see stories about ordinary people doing extraordinary things. This gives everyone the hope that if the time came, they would be able to rise up to the occasion and do the same. But do we ever truly believe we can? I personally don't think so and this is why I believe reality does outstrip fiction.
Dot - 1/22
dmariel, 1/22/09
The best example, which we touched on in class on Thursday, of media as part of the terror, is the Casey Anthony case. When this missing child report first started being shown on the news, it was like any other I had seen before. After a few weeks without finding Caylee, news channels began to become more interested in other things. I would turn on the news to see signs such as BREAKING NEWS: Casey Anthony has intimate relationship with her lawyer. I have become so disappointed with the news that I don’t even pay attention to ‘breaking news’ flashes when they come on the TV. In this case, the news clearly began to make up their own stories in order to keep peoples attention on the undeveloped missing child case. In no way do I want to demean the importance of finding Caylee Anthony, but what made this one family so special? Children go missing everyday, people get murdered, kidnapped, and assaulted yet the news decided to focus on the Anthony’s case. This event became the center of the news due to the media exacerbating its importance through repeated coverage everyday.
Smiley Face - 2/22
aro0823, 2-22
To speak specifically about Baudrillard’s relation to Facebook photo albums, I will theorize about something that has made me stop and think numerous times. I often find myself asking if a certain event was actually fun, or has looking back at the photos of people smiling made me think it was fun? Reality has become so convoluted that we feel the need to record every second of it just to assure ourselves it happened. Culture is undoubtedly deluding, thus leading to the confusion of reality with staged presence. We have managed to convince ourselves—by way of the intertextuality apparent in modern society-- that the fictional things we see on a daily basis that claim to be ‘real’ are in fact reality.
The rapid spread of repeated images has contributed to this unfortunate phenomenon. It is beyond simplistic to take a video on your phone and upload it to the internet, where it may very well become ‘viral’ and be watched by millions around the world. Regardless if the event was staged or the footage was doctored, people seldom stop to think if the image they are seeing is real if it makes the claim to be. The problem is further compounded by the lack of solutions to our societal delusion. The real and the pretend real have become so interconnected that it is a near impossibility to go back to the simple world of absolutes that occurred before this postmodernist mess of a place we live in today.